by RBaxter » Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:43 pm
I too believe that a bit of the right kind of red helps - and that the right kind is present in some of the amber and orange tinted roses.
I'm after a more strongly scented and a bit more strongly yellow Tea-like climber. I love my Teas, but my nose can barely smell them, and I'd like a bit more umph to their color. So I'm thinking of working with Autumn Sunset, Prairie Harvest and Honey Perfume. With a long term goal of capturing the Cläre Grammerstorf influence through doubling up on the Friedrich Wörlein, while adding some good Buck genes.
Something like (Autumn Sunset x Prairie Harvest) x (Prairie Harvest x {Honey Perfume or Autumn Sunset}) to hopefully get me a fragrant strong yellow tetraploid.
Then maybe crossed back to an Amber Cloud x Jersey Beauty to generate a fragrant, tough, Tea influenced yellow climber. Petal substance and petal holding time might be lacking a bit, but it would be fun to try. Some cold hardiness might make it through, but I would have no idea (8b/9a).
Regarding Honey Perfume. I've suspected that it's seed parent AROfres might be another Friedrich Wörlein descendant, through Friesia/Sunsprite and perhaps even Westerland - it has the look and fragrance strength to me - and why else would the breeder whom I'd bet was Jack Christensen for Armstrong Roses, use the "fres" after the normal ARO if not for Sunsprite?
Does anyone have knowledge of the ancestry of AROfres? I'd like for it to be a Westerland and Sunsprite offspring. That's another step I've thought of.
I too believe that a bit of the right kind of red helps - and that the right kind is present in some of the amber and orange tinted roses.
I'm after a more strongly scented and a bit more strongly yellow Tea-like climber. I love my Teas, but my nose can barely smell them, and I'd like a bit more umph to their color. So I'm thinking of working with Autumn Sunset, Prairie Harvest and Honey Perfume. With a long term goal of capturing the Cläre Grammerstorf influence through doubling up on the Friedrich Wörlein, while adding some good Buck genes.
Something like (Autumn Sunset x Prairie Harvest) x (Prairie Harvest x {Honey Perfume or Autumn Sunset}) to hopefully get me a fragrant strong yellow tetraploid.
Then maybe crossed back to an Amber Cloud x Jersey Beauty to generate a fragrant, tough, Tea influenced yellow climber. Petal substance and petal holding time might be lacking a bit, but it would be fun to try. Some cold hardiness might make it through, but I would have no idea (8b/9a).
Regarding Honey Perfume. I've suspected that it's seed parent AROfres might be another Friedrich Wörlein descendant, through Friesia/Sunsprite and perhaps even Westerland - it has the look and fragrance strength to me - and why else would the breeder whom I'd bet was Jack Christensen for Armstrong Roses, use the "fres" after the normal ARO if not for Sunsprite?
Does anyone have knowledge of the ancestry of AROfres? I'd like for it to be a Westerland and Sunsprite offspring. That's another step I've thought of.