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chuckp
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can anyone help identify this rose?

Post: # 59331Post chuckp
Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:26 pm

I took a trip to Atlanta Canada last summer. I found this rose growing in a hedge of rosa Rugosa.
I brought back seeds and hoping that the bees had done their magic.
please pay attention to the hooked thorns and the hair on the hips.
ps: I though this rose was r.Acicularis, but I now have doubts.
Chuckp
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AndrewBarocco
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Re: can anyone help identify this rose?

Post: # 59332Post AndrewBarocco
Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:32 pm

Well those hooked prickles certainly remind me of R. bracteata, but I'm not sure on this one?

pierre
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Post: # 59343Post pierre
Sun Feb 08, 2015 10:46 pm

From hip shape and other characteristics it is a cannina or derived from. Albas have same shape bigger fruits.

s_hardy
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Post: # 59349Post s_hardy
Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:13 pm

I agree that it looks like a relative of bracteata, though bracteata would never survive at that (Z6a) location, and also agree that it looks like some member of section canina. Although there are hundreds of shades of caninae, and the foliage reminds me a lot of corymbifera,the only likely candidate I've seen with prickles on its hips was rubiginosa, so I'm going to tentatively guess some sort of (possibly impure) Eglantine.

Rootstocks gone wild?

johannes p
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Post: # 59350Post johannes p
Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:56 pm

It looks like with closer look what I recieved from Margit as a diploid Rosa laxa. The hosta-like grey leaves are and those huge prickles, the shape of hips are also right with the spines (?). Look for white blooms and a small amount of rebloom if my guess is right. What do you think Margit?

david zlesak
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Post: # 59351Post david zlesak
Mon Feb 09, 2015 3:34 pm

My guess is section Caninae too and it is very similar to some of my R. rubiginosa hybrids. Some hybrids have lost the apple like scent to the foliage of the straight species, but still generally have the same shape, color, etc. of the leaves and hips. Do you remember a nice slight fragrance to the foliage of this one?

Margit Schowalter
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Post: # 59363Post Margit Schowalter
Tue Feb 10, 2015 1:57 pm

Charles
Agreeing with what has been previously posted, it seems to be from the caninae section and likely a rootstock possibly eglanteria/rubiginosa as David suggests. Eglanteria was used as rootstock a lot on the Canadian prairies and perseveres in the Brooks rose collection despite efforts to eradicate it.
Johannes
The "Connies Tough Old Rose" I sent you appears to be a natural cross between R. laxa (leaves,hips,white blossoms) and R. elganteria (deeply hooked prickles). Although it has some similar characteristics to Charles' plant, I don't think it is the same.

chuckp
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Re: can anyone help identify this rose?

Post: # 64930Post chuckp
Wed Jan 11, 2017 6:18 am

Hi,
Just found this rose in my travels. I think according to HMF this rose maybe "Seven Sisters "
Chuckp

https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.5699.1
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SimonV
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Post: # 64933Post SimonV
Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:51 pm

This one, based on the 2nd photo, looks to have a carolina influence, not multiflora as in 'Seven Sisters', however, other features such as habit, etc would help. Is it a rambler?

and http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.283466

The foliage is fairly consistent with what I am seeing in 'Commander Gillet' derivatives:

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Possibbly a virginiana influence: http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.236100
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Peter Harris
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Re: can anyone help identify this rose?

Post: # 64934Post Peter Harris
Thu Jan 12, 2017 5:52 am

[quote="chuckp"]Hi,
Just found this rose in my travels. I think according to HMF this rose maybe "Seven Sisters "
Chuckp

https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.5699.1[/quote]

It would help if you'd say where you were traveling when you found this rose--which, incidentally, does not look like 'Seven Sisters' to me.

Peter

Peter Harris
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Post: # 64938Post Peter Harris
Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:40 pm

According to Chuckp, the rose was found in Barbados.

Let the identification begin.

Peter

david zlesak
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Post: # 64939Post david zlesak
Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:03 pm

It reminds me of 'Climbing Pinkie' with the vigorous canes and new leaves. Cl. Pinkie has flowers that are maybe about 2" across or so about that shade of pink and doubleness.

rosefanatico
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Post: # 65053Post rosefanatico
Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:21 pm

Hi, I purchased this rose in Canada. The tag said "Northern Canada Rose" Of my many roses in a zone 4a garden this is the best performer. Always lots of repeat bloom. Fragrance, healthy and no hips. I know it looks like Therese Bugnet but it is not. The shape is different, no red in the stems and the color is more crisp and way too much repeat compared to Therese. It may make a great pollen parent and I am sure many in colder zones would love it. I have looked everywhere to identify it and no luck. Any help is appreciated.
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chuckp
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Post: # 66284Post chuckp
Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:02 am

Bought this as Westerland, it's not.....can anyone help I'D. this rose?
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sunnyvalley
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Post: # 66285Post sunnyvalley
Tue Oct 03, 2017 8:35 am

Charles, looks a bit like Folklore to me - Kordes HT 1967. Where did you buy it? Maybe the vendors page can help.
Sharlene

chuckp
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Post: # 66297Post chuckp
Wed Oct 04, 2017 9:55 am

Thanks sharlene, my mis-labelled "westerland" does look like folklore. I'm delighted to see it was bred by Kordes.
But my Google search pull up some dubious information:-

http://www.google.ca/search?q=HMF+folkl ... ent=safari
If anyone is famillar with Folklore, please weigh in.
Chuckp

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