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Seedling

Post: # 69886Post jbergeson
Thu May 16, 2019 5:50 pm

Any time I have a seedling that defies norms I get really skeptical that a stray pollen grain was responsible...I just wish I knew which pollen it was!

This is Highwire Flyer x 1113. 1113 usually produces compact, matte-blue foliage and single blossoms. This seedling ended up with glossy foliage and a vigorous, upright habit. The bud has strong yellow undertones and is firm, indicating a degree of doubleness.
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Re: Seedling

Post: # 69890Post philip_la
Thu May 16, 2019 11:16 pm

Cool, Joe. I like the dark stems and leaves, and could certainly imagine that that plant has Radler genetics. (The toothed margins are a little too perfect, however!) I seem to recall you saying that 1113 was not very kind about permitting colors on offspring, so I understand your second-guessing. (Then again, roses seem to harbor a lot of surprises in their genome.) Regardless, whoever the daddy, that's a nice baby. I certainly don't have any plants that nice. Look forward to seeing the open bloom in a few days. Thanks.
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Re: Seedling

Post: # 69891Post david mears
Thu May 16, 2019 11:22 pm

I like it Joe. As for the possibility of "foreign" pollen, could the the color come "wayback" family members ?
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Re: Seedling

Post: # 69906Post roseseek
Mon May 20, 2019 2:59 am

That is striking, Joe!
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Re: Seedling

Post: # 69908Post aimbeault
Mon May 20, 2019 1:43 pm

Joe, your seedling seems very vigorous with its ramifications. It is already very nice, but in some years, it will have gorgeous look with this metallic foliage and its yellow red flowers. Congratulations!
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Re: Seedling

Post: # 69910Post Rob Byrnes
Mon May 20, 2019 1:47 pm

I like the leaves and stems also and hope you will put up a picture when it fully opens. Nice one!
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Re: Seedling

Post: # 69915Post jbergeson
Wed May 22, 2019 8:46 am

Pictured here with All the Rage x 1001
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Re: Seedling

Post: # 69916Post Rob Byrnes
Wed May 22, 2019 8:59 am

Nice one Joe! What is 1113?
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Re: Seedling

Post: # 69917Post jbergeson
Wed May 22, 2019 11:45 am

Rob, 1113 is a seedling of unknown parentage that has shown good health and a very nice rounded plant habit. See pic.

As I mentioned, I think the Highwire Flyer seedling might have been from stray pollen from maybe a yellow rose, because 1113 seedlings usually don't have such shiny foliage and are often single.
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Post: # 69918Post Rob Byrnes
Wed May 22, 2019 12:02 pm

Loaded with blooms and looking healthy. Nice!
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Re: Seedling

Post: # 69919Post philip_la
Fri May 24, 2019 12:50 am

Beautiful, Joe. I love how the foliage sets off that bloom. ("Metallic" is actually a good description for the color and specularity of those leaves. Now I'm trying to think of a clever name that evokes fire and steel, or something similar...) I'd love to think it were a seedling of 1113 and would inherit the architecture.

I'm not familiar with HighWire Flyer, but I might have to look into it now...
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Re: Seedling

Post: # 69929Post jbergeson
Tue May 28, 2019 8:29 am

Regarding Highwire Flyer, I want to note that the stunning rose on the cover page of the A.R.T.S. webpage (linked to in another post) is Highwire Flyer. I hope they can look half that good up here in Zone 3. I noticed another young seedling of the same cross that also has the metallic foliage.

In other seedlings, I kind of like the spoon-shaped petals of this seedling, which comes from All the Rage. What are my chances that future blossoms will be similar? Is it worth anything aesthetically?
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Post: # 69930Post Rob Byrnes
Tue May 28, 2019 8:44 am

I like it Joe. The color, the leaves and the petal shape is different in a good way.
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Re: Seedling

Post: # 69931Post Don
Tue May 28, 2019 8:47 am

>> Is it worth anything aesthetically?

I think you should name it "Groovy". It could take on a life of it's own.

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https://www.columbian.com/news/2018/sep ... ay-of-60s/

See slides three and eleven.
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What doesn't kill them makes them stronger.

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Re: Seedling

Post: # 69932Post jbergeson
Tue May 28, 2019 10:38 am

Don,

...or "Scooby"

Then come up with one to call "Shaggy"
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Re: Seedling

Post: # 69935Post jbergeson
Wed May 29, 2019 9:19 am

Here is a new flower to open.

Blue for You x TUSPER (Tuscany Superb x Persian Yellow)

This is on a big shrub that wouldn't have been able to bloom outside so I brought it in for the winter in a pot.

Persian Yellow is somewhat doubtful as the true pollen parent of the pollen parent, since that seedling was way more disease resistant than either parent.
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Re: Seedling

Post: # 69939Post Larry Davis
Wed May 29, 2019 8:14 pm

Really looks good. Winter hardy? BS resistant?

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Re: Seedling

Post: # 69940Post Rob Byrnes
Wed May 29, 2019 8:16 pm

Really nice color.
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Re: Seedling

Post: # 69941Post Don
Wed May 29, 2019 8:22 pm

Seems to be missing some anthers.
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Re: Seedling

Post: # 69943Post jbergeson
Wed May 29, 2019 10:07 pm

Good eye, Don. I've notified the anthorities.

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