First germination of the winter
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First germination of the winter
Today I noticed my first germination of the winter. It is;
Ramblin' Red x (Morning Magic x ILC1-72-1). A very hardy (Z3b) red rambler crossed with a yellow shrub. Both parents are very disease resistant. The excitement begins.
Ramblin' Red x (Morning Magic x ILC1-72-1). A very hardy (Z3b) red rambler crossed with a yellow shrub. Both parents are very disease resistant. The excitement begins.
Rob Byrnes
Historic Village of Roebling, NJ Zone 7a
On the right bank of the Delaware River
Historic Village of Roebling, NJ Zone 7a
On the right bank of the Delaware River
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Re: First germination of the winter
That sounds like a great cross Rob. 'Ramblin Red' does well at the University of Alberta Botanic Garden.
Looking forward to your report on the outcome.
Looking forward to your report on the outcome.
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Congratulations, Rob. Fun times.
This was a year of many aborted hips for me. (What have the bees got that I ain't got?) I nonetheless have a few crosses I'm looking forward to germinating in the fridge, and more than a few O.P.'s to help me familiarize myself with a new crop of prospective parents. I think I'm actually more excited for the prospective future crosses I'm already dreaming about. (Those future crosses always feel like they have more potential than the ones that have already been made, for some reason... ;-) )
This was a year of many aborted hips for me. (What have the bees got that I ain't got?) I nonetheless have a few crosses I'm looking forward to germinating in the fridge, and more than a few O.P.'s to help me familiarize myself with a new crop of prospective parents. I think I'm actually more excited for the prospective future crosses I'm already dreaming about. (Those future crosses always feel like they have more potential than the ones that have already been made, for some reason... ;-) )
Philip F.
Zone 8 / Sunset Zn 30 (Austin, TX -- formerly New Orleans, LA)
Zone 8 / Sunset Zn 30 (Austin, TX -- formerly New Orleans, LA)
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Re: First germination of the winter
Margit,Margit Schowalter wrote: ↑Wed Dec 19, 2018 1:02 pmThat sounds like a great cross Rob. 'Ramblin Red' does well at the University of Alberta Botanic Garden.
Looking forward to your report on the outcome.
I'm hoping something good comes from this cross. I'm glad to learn that Ramblin Red does well in Alberta. Do you know how Morning Magic does up your way?
Rob Byrnes
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Re: First germination of the winter
I share your excitement Philip! I spend all winter planning and imagining crosses to make in the spring. :-)
Rob Byrnes
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Re: First germination of the winter
Rob
I've not seen 'Morning Magic' sold in the nurseries or growing in Alberta.
I've not seen 'Morning Magic' sold in the nurseries or growing in Alberta.
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Thank you Margit. I thought I read somewhere that Morning Magic was hardy to zone 3 and had wondered if you could verify that.
Rob Byrnes
Historic Village of Roebling, NJ Zone 7a
On the right bank of the Delaware River
Historic Village of Roebling, NJ Zone 7a
On the right bank of the Delaware River
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Morning Magic has above average hardiness for a reblooming rose. Similar, perhaps, to Cancan. I would estimate 6-8" of live cane here in Zone 3b.
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Re: First germination of the winter
Thank you for the observation Joe. I was hoping that Morning Magic has some decent hardiness.
Rob Byrnes
Historic Village of Roebling, NJ Zone 7a
On the right bank of the Delaware River
Historic Village of Roebling, NJ Zone 7a
On the right bank of the Delaware River
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Rob, I often think I should use MM more than I have. I know Julie O didn't have good luck with it...some spring frost damage I believe, and perhaps downy mildew. However, I think it has grown decently here for me. It doesn't really fit the bill as a retail "finished product" for my climate because it is neither a compact bloom machine nor cane hardy enough to be a climber. However, as a hybridizing parent I think it has potential to increase the hardiness of most modern roses while maintaining rebloom.
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I would agree with you Joe that it has potential to increase hardiness while maintaining rebloom. It is one of the roses in my garden that is completely disease free. I think it would be a good one to cross with some of the very hardy Canadian roses, like Frontenac or Canadian Shield.
Rob Byrnes
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Today I have germination from (Morning Magic x ILC1-72-1) x Never Alone. The seed parent is MMILC3. I'm hoping for excellent hardiness, good architecture and some yellow. With each parent/grandparent having yellow in their background, yellow just might be possible.
Both MMILC1 and MMILC3 are disease free here so I'm hoping that resistance is carried forward.
Both MMILC1 and MMILC3 are disease free here so I'm hoping that resistance is carried forward.
Rob Byrnes
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Good luck! I hope the health follows the line.
Kim
California Central Coast
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Cooler inland coastal valley with strong marine influence
California Central Coast
USDA Zone 9b
Sunset Zone 15
Cooler inland coastal valley with strong marine influence
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Thank you Kim. I’m hoping so!
Rob Byrnes
Historic Village of Roebling, NJ Zone 7a
On the right bank of the Delaware River
Historic Village of Roebling, NJ Zone 7a
On the right bank of the Delaware River
Re: First germination of the winter
((R. multiflora x Blush Noisette) x (R. multiflora x Blush Noisette)) x Jersey Beauty was my first - in the fridge, in its baggie at that!
I'd say about 30% of them sprouted in the cold dark icebox.
The reciprocal cross did not germinate in its baggie, and none any of my other crosses did either. Go figure?
I'll have to do that one again this year to prove to myself it happened because of an error I made.
Anyway, it looks like about two-thirds of the poor pale things after transplanting now have two to three sets of real leaves and are looking healthy, and now I've got several more crosses in my germination trays along with them.
Baxter
I'd say about 30% of them sprouted in the cold dark icebox.
The reciprocal cross did not germinate in its baggie, and none any of my other crosses did either. Go figure?
I'll have to do that one again this year to prove to myself it happened because of an error I made.
Anyway, it looks like about two-thirds of the poor pale things after transplanting now have two to three sets of real leaves and are looking healthy, and now I've got several more crosses in my germination trays along with them.
Baxter
Katy TX Zone 9A
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Re: First germination of the winter
Very interesting cross Baxter. What were your hopes for and F1 when you made the cross?
Rob Byrnes
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Re: First germination of the winter
Today's germination is Italian Ice x Campfire. Hoping for healthy and hardy yellows.
Rob Byrnes
Historic Village of Roebling, NJ Zone 7a
On the right bank of the Delaware River
Historic Village of Roebling, NJ Zone 7a
On the right bank of the Delaware River
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Sounds fun, Rob! That should get you a blossom at a young age.
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That's what I'm hoping for Joe! We'll see if it blooms during the next few weeks to a couple months.
Rob Byrnes
Historic Village of Roebling, NJ Zone 7a
On the right bank of the Delaware River
Historic Village of Roebling, NJ Zone 7a
On the right bank of the Delaware River
Re: First germination of the winter
I've got a Jersey Beauty x Autumn Sunset peeking out today - that has a good chance to be a vigorous climber!
Rob, for the previous one I'm hoping for a seed fertile, fragrant, remontant diploid that carries the disease resistance and increased cold resistance from multiflora and wichurana that I can use with some of the old Teas that do so great down here. It would nice to stretch their reach a bit further north, wouldn't it? Adding a different fragrance component wouldn't hurt my feelings either. I've grown a bunch of the teas and have had a hard time smelling the ones touted for the "Tea" scent. Tall order, slim chances, but why not try...
RBx
Rob, for the previous one I'm hoping for a seed fertile, fragrant, remontant diploid that carries the disease resistance and increased cold resistance from multiflora and wichurana that I can use with some of the old Teas that do so great down here. It would nice to stretch their reach a bit further north, wouldn't it? Adding a different fragrance component wouldn't hurt my feelings either. I've grown a bunch of the teas and have had a hard time smelling the ones touted for the "Tea" scent. Tall order, slim chances, but why not try...
RBx
Katy TX Zone 9A