Seedling

[Don]

No doubt the authorities will find them in a dumpster, emptied of their valuables.

[aimbeault]

It remind me the gallique ‘’La Belle Sultane’’, magnifique Joe!
https://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=21.295968

[jbergeson]

A few pics, probably not in this order:

Art Nouveau x (First Impression x R. virginiana)

Aged anthers turn pink on my BFY x TUSPER seedling shown above

(Gina's Rose x R. virginiana) x Miracle on the Hudson, a non-repeater

Also a fringed bud cluster of the (GR x virg) x MOTH seedling before blossoms opened

[roseseek]

How fun! That's the first result from Art Nouveau with those petals I've seen yet.

[Larry Davis]

That Art Nouveau results is great. Shows it is heritable, not just a defect in Art N. itself.

[jbergeson]

A couple of Art Nouveau seedlings from the past...

The single one didn't even survive the summer in the ground...can't remember the other parent.

The double one is AN x R. carolina and maybe I should try to use it. It's out in the field and isn't super robust but survives.

[roseseek]

I love them! I've had few with the AN petal deformity. Most of them have traditional petals with pretty good plants under them.

[Rob Byrnes]

Good eye, Don. I've notified the anthorities.

LOL

[philip_la]

IMO, the AN x R. carolina seedling is pretty spectacular. I've never worked with R.c. obviously, but I"m pretty impressed that she (he in this case?) allowed an offspring to inherit so much Art Nouveauness. I wonder if it could carry out another generation. Regardless, I think you really do *need* to give it a try! (Dunno if you would need to reinforce A.C. in the next cross?)
(Enjoying the Don/Joe banter, guys. ;-) )

[jbergeson]

Philip and all,

Your responses, now and previous, to the AN x R. carolina seedling makes me think I should try to move forward with that. I had been unimpressed for some reason but a blossom that odd is rare, I guess. What I'm noticing about AN seedlings with the "defect" is that the petals might not reach their mature size. I think I just have to play around with it in many directions and hope something interesting (and reblooming and hardy and healthy) pops out. That plant is out in my field and I may decide to dig it this fall in order to get more than a handful of blossoms to work with.

I'm missing my chance to pollinate all of the AN x FIVI3 blossoms that are opening on my large potted plant because of life and work demands. However, I did stick All the Rage pollen on a number of them, hoping to recover rebloom and increase petal size while retaining warm tones and some sort of striping or other pleasing oddness.

Joe

[philip_la]

I wouldn't sweat the size of the boom, Joe. In fact, I would be surprised if it *could* be made much larger. Others with more knowledge will hopefully set my assumptions straight, but I don't know of any e.g. fimbriated rose blossoms that achieve the otherwise expected size. Serratipetala and Grootendorst, for instance, are both generally not more than about 2 inches across, despite being a sport of Cramoisi, and a rugosa, respectively. (Cramoisi's blooms are typically close to 25% larger than it's fimbriated sport, as I recall.)

My assumption is that the mutation stunts the petal growth. But it's still a really cool novelty.

[jbergeson]

Here's another Art Nouveau seedling that just opened. (x Campfire)

I think this had been allowed to wilt, which might have influenced the bloom form...will be interesting to see future blossoms.

[macabreroses]

Your seedlings are always a favorite of mine to see 😭😭❤️

[jakaufmann]

Regarding Highwire Flyer, I want to note that the stunning rose on the cover page of the A.R.T.S. webpage (linked to in another post) is Highwire Flyer. I hope they can look half that good up here in Zone 3. I noticed another young seedling of the same cross that also has the metallic foliage.

In other seedlings, I kind of like the spoon-shaped petals of this seedling, which comes from All the Rage. What are my chances that future blossoms will be similar? Is it worth anything aesthetically?

I absolutely love the shape of this rose! Very unique, and I love the name "Groovy!" haha